The long awaited support pick guide has been updated ! Also people have been asking for a facebook page so I made one today www.facebook.com/spellsyLoL.
Thanks for reading, if you have any comments you can comment below, somewhere on reddit, or hit me up on twitter / facebook as those will be the best ways to reach me. Keep watch as I will have some more content related to this chart hopefully coming in the next week or so with some explanations for the matchups and such.
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Zyra doesn't appear to have really good synergy with any AD but does counter a few supports/ADs. What situations would you pick Zyra in and which AD do you find she works with the best?
ReplyDeleteI love Varus/Zyra. Their ulti's stack so well and they have amazing lane presence.
DeleteZyra also does really well with Caitlyn. Really good poke, and very safe lane (two snares and a small dash)
DeleteI personally like the zyra/mf combo because aou have amazing poke and burst as long you land your snares.. and with zyra you have the abillity to keep mf alive in teamifghts so she can fully ult :)
DeleteYOU HAVEN'T LIVED UNTIL YOU'VE TRIED ZYRA/ASHE. The poke until 6 should keep you from danger and you can pick up kills against the aggressive supports who think they can get away from infinite slows of Zyra/Ashe. If you're playing as Zyra (I have 72% win ratio in ranked as her as support) snare the opposing team at 6 and as soon as they've been snared, lay down your ult. Once they have come down from the throw up, Ashe needs to hit her ult. They can't escape.
DeleteNever, ever play as Zyra vs Nunu. He eats your plants. Nuff said. Taric is a complete joke vs Zyra but you still have to watch out for the flash/stun combo early game as she's very squishy (and you have to build her as such).
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DeleteI never tried Zyra but after reading all comments sure ill try
Hi Ryan, thanks for asking
ReplyDeleteI dont know.
yay, ty for new guide. it look really good
ReplyDeleteI find Zyra really good with Ashe/Varus or Cait/Graves. First two because she can protect them and let them kite with her snare, the second because she can keep enemies snare while u kill them and helps u push. I usually take her agains heavy lane domination comps, i.e. against Cait or against junglers such as mundo, sej or even hecarim.
I agree with this, i think this is more or less what i said on the zyra support card too. She can be a versatile laner with either aggro or a strong anti-trade laner.
DeleteNami fits better for Graves than Janna. Q allows such an easy setup for Buckshot.
ReplyDeleteI actually disagree with this - the AD that janna's shield gives helps graves SO much becuase he is not just an auto attacker but a nuker with his Buckshot and Ultimate - nami's E doesnt help with this but Janna's E does - it makes him into such a strong burster post 6, and it makes your trades (dash in - shield - buckshot) so strong.
Deletedon't forgot janna has e now
DeleteJanna uses E on graves and janna uses q hits the adc or support
graves uses q and r
dead adc or support
-__- dam i was going post that
DeleteWhere is Taric + Urgot?
ReplyDeleteNot sure if it is a mistake or not, but I notice Kayle and Karma listed under "AD Synergy" but both lack a "Support Counter" section. Also, I am curious as to why Lux is no longer listed as a support.
ReplyDeleteNonetheless, you did an amazing job and this chart will be very helpful to me, just like your previous ones did.
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ReplyDeletethresh shows up twice for graves and draven
ReplyDeleteIn fairness, you could probably just have him in every synergy and counter
DeleteMeaning Thresh works well with them and against them.
DeleteMorgana ?
ReplyDeleteI don't see any mention of Lux; thoughts on her as a support / synergies?
ReplyDeletethis is awesome to all support players :)
ReplyDeleteand sad to see there are no more strong cow :/
I see a distinct lack of Lux, Morgana, Kayle, and Karma under the support counter section so including those would be super helpful. Also why is Nunu only a counter to Sivir and not to those with increased attack speed as well (Tristana, Kog'Maw, Graves, etc.). I also happened to notice that Nunu is only listed as good synergy with Vayne, even though Nunu/Caitlyn and Nunu/Kog'Maw are considered two extremely strong lanes currently. Also with Nunu being able to consume Zyra's plants as well as he's tanky enough to withstand a lot of her poke damage, why is he not considered a counter to her?
ReplyDeleteSorry for the block of text XD
Though nunu is good with Caitlin and kog'maw the other supports listed are most likely better synergized with the ad's. That's my guess sorry if it ain't right. :D
DeleteI think nunu is horrible with cait...how would it be a good duo?!
DeleteI have found Nami to be good against Draven. Easy to get those stuns since you know where he has to stand. Or he misses axe and still works out.
ReplyDeleteyea ive been playing this matchup a bit too and i like it, but the thing is it is REALLY punishing, like if you miss 1 bubble nami is so squishy that draven will just steamroll over her and the cd is so long on bubble that it makes it even harder. Its a really fun matchup i think and i like it maybe ill put it in idk - im planning some updates to the list to come in a day or two i think hopefully depending on conex.
Deletenami is my support pick vs draven too. 'Think you could call that a counter.
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ReplyDeletewhy blitzcrank doesn't have sinergy with any adc, i play great support when carrying with blitz varus, ashe and corki
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hey just a quick question... why don't you put morgana on this list? i mean she is a really good counter against leona and nami supports and is also really great against tristanas and kog'maws
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